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Juggalos?
I was watching a video of "The gathering of the Juggalos"(festival for fans of Insane Clown Posse),on youtube and I noticed tons of braided and some dreaded hair. I know next nothing about Juggalos or the bands at the festival. I'm wondering if anyone here does vending of dreads and/or installs/braiding at the Gathering. Looks to me you could make a killing working it.
If there are any Juggalos here, is it more braids than dreads look that's popular? What does it mean to be a Juggalo? I've heard it has a Christian message, true?
I'm just really curious about this cultural phenomenon.
If there are any Juggalos here, is it more braids than dreads look that's popular? What does it mean to be a Juggalo? I've heard it has a Christian message, true?
I'm just really curious about this cultural phenomenon.
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Im not a juggalo but it seems both the braids and the dreads are popular since ICP has sported both styles and Juggalos are imitating the style of the band. I put real dreads in a guys hair and the pic he brought me of what he wanted was a pic of one of the members of ICP..
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ICP were, until very recently, just a horrorcore hip hop band fronted by blokes in clown make up. They included a lot of violent lyrics about cannablism and necrophilia, the usual shock schtick. Being a Juggalo just meant being a fan of the band and often copying the look yourself however Juggalos often crossed the line into fantacism, for some reason the band attracts a lot of obsessives.
There was then a storm in a teacup over some interview they did where they claimed they were Christians and had presented themselves as "ghetto" or "hardcore" in order to spread the message of God to people who wouldn't otherwise be interested. The internet had a spazz fit, as to be honest Juggalo's are often a source of ridicule and pity and it appeared the entire thing was a joke from start to finish. The band then later retracted these statements when they realised the extent of the backlash. Some still claim there is a message in the songs, it's open to interpretation I guess, but I'm not sure how Christian one can be whilst rapping about shagging corpses.
There was then a storm in a teacup over some interview they did where they claimed they were Christians and had presented themselves as "ghetto" or "hardcore" in order to spread the message of God to people who wouldn't otherwise be interested. The internet had a spazz fit, as to be honest Juggalo's are often a source of ridicule and pity and it appeared the entire thing was a joke from start to finish. The band then later retracted these statements when they realised the extent of the backlash. Some still claim there is a message in the songs, it's open to interpretation I guess, but I'm not sure how Christian one can be whilst rapping about shagging corpses.
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I'm with Dystopatica...I don't know much about the metal scene these days but I was into it when ICP first came about. I bought Kerrang every week and I remember them first being about and it was all about shock value (this was about 13-14 years ago now I think). I've never rated them but I have no clue how they'd pass themselves off as Christian
All I really remember is their style, and the fact the had their own soft drink which would get sprayed over everyone at their gigs.
All I really remember is their style, and the fact the had their own soft drink which would get sprayed over everyone at their gigs.
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Alllll I can say whilst staying nice, is that extreme juggalettes annoy me. I've been threatened to be "stabbed by the ghetto" by a juggalette. My OH likes ICP, but some people just take it to the extreme.
I know quite a few girls around here who sport braids, who are into the juggalo fashion, so maybe you should go for it :3
I know quite a few girls around here who sport braids, who are into the juggalo fashion, so maybe you should go for it :3
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i know alot of "juggalos" from back home and i think alot of them would love the fake dreads thing. (that was the point of this right? lol)
i'm in complete shock that they had tried to pass as religious christians i've listened to their music and really thats gotta be a joke by them. i can say most of the "juggalos" i know/knew were obsessive types of weirdos.
i'm in complete shock that they had tried to pass as religious christians i've listened to their music and really thats gotta be a joke by them. i can say most of the "juggalos" i know/knew were obsessive types of weirdos.
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xalternmommyx wrote: i can say most of the "juggalos" i know/knew were obsessive types of weirdos.
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Goffy_lucc wrote:Alllll I can say whilst staying nice, is that extreme juggalettes annoy me. I've been threatened to be "stabbed by the ghetto" by a juggalette. My OH likes ICP, but some people just take it to the extreme.
I know quite a few girls around here who sport braids, who are into the juggalo fashion, so maybe you should go for it :3
I know what you mean. I think some of their songs are funny but I really don't understand how people can be that obsessed over them, or any band for that matter.
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I know that Triplesix sells dreadfalls /fringes and her customer base is mainly juggalos.
BUt I would be very cautious. They ARE weirdos and creeps. GOTJ [gathering of the juggalos] is a mess of drunken, drugged up crazy people.
IN the first place, being a juggalo was just a name for ICP fans. now people are so delusional that they think being a juggalo has some deeper meaning. People have taken it to the point where they believe being a juggalo is a RELIGION.................................
Its a headache. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall [at least most of them]
Its a hit or miss with them, I've had them try to rip me off when I used to do graphic design.
Like for example, I was asked to make a layout for myspace for a couple bucks. I drew up a quick example of what I thought they wanted. They said "yes that looks awesome" so i made it. Once I sent them final draft. they wanted EVERYTHING CHANGED. And expected it for free..
Just a warning. I've heard of juggalettes doing this to fellow dreadmakers who aren't known well. and claiming their dreads aren't made well, when they ruined the dreads themselves by not caring for them. [they expect dreads to stay clean and perfect even after being doused in faygo]
NOTE: Not ALL of them do this. Just some. like i said, Hit or Miss with these people.
If you can endure the headache of dealing with brainless sheeps. go for it.
BUt I would be very cautious. They ARE weirdos and creeps. GOTJ [gathering of the juggalos] is a mess of drunken, drugged up crazy people.
IN the first place, being a juggalo was just a name for ICP fans. now people are so delusional that they think being a juggalo has some deeper meaning. People have taken it to the point where they believe being a juggalo is a RELIGION.................................
Its a headache. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall [at least most of them]
Its a hit or miss with them, I've had them try to rip me off when I used to do graphic design.
Like for example, I was asked to make a layout for myspace for a couple bucks. I drew up a quick example of what I thought they wanted. They said "yes that looks awesome" so i made it. Once I sent them final draft. they wanted EVERYTHING CHANGED. And expected it for free..
Just a warning. I've heard of juggalettes doing this to fellow dreadmakers who aren't known well. and claiming their dreads aren't made well, when they ruined the dreads themselves by not caring for them. [they expect dreads to stay clean and perfect even after being doused in faygo]
NOTE: Not ALL of them do this. Just some. like i said, Hit or Miss with these people.
If you can endure the headache of dealing with brainless sheeps. go for it.
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I don't believe its fair to say any group of people is a particular way, but I respect your opinion. From my experience some are that way, but it is very hit and miss, just like it is with any person you'd meet juggalo or not. I actually went to the gathering last year and from my experience most of them were very laid back and helpful. Overall I'd say they're a very misunderstood group of people. I'd say the braided style is more popular among males while dread falls are popular among females. You could definitely make a killing selling out there. =]
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my husband is very into ICP (although he is not a juggalo), he has all the joker's cards tattooed on his arm. He has always believed that their message was satirical and ironic (he has a phd and is generally quite literary). I have always mocked him slightly as I thought that their fans and their music was definitely not clever. However, he is convinced, and I have to say i do think it seems that way, with the 6th joker's card that the message was supposed to be about living a good life. I am not 100% sold on the satire, but it does make sense that that could have been the message all along. (he is looking over my shoulder now and says it's all obvious. He says looking back on the ringmaster album (second album) there are passages which are clear reworkings of new testament passages (although he says this wouldn't be obvious if you didn't know it was supposed to be christian, so it wasn't obvious to him on original listening). He also says the old testament has rape etc in and he finds it hard to see why people can't see the christian thing in their songs.). For the record he is not Christian, but respects the viewpoint. His opinion is that they have a real meaning behind their songs, and unfortunately too many of their fans are not intelligent enough to get the real meaning, and so get everyone a bad name. He is not your typical ICP fan I would say!
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I think this is pretty fair, its unfortunate because it seems like one of those things where the majority of fans are numbskulls, and there are some that are definitely not. I always try to be careful about what I say, because there are always people who don't fit the stereotype.MissAnthropik wrote:my husband is very into ICP (although he is not a juggalo), he has all the joker's cards tattooed on his arm. He has always believed that their message was satirical and ironic (he has a phd and is generally quite literary). I have always mocked him slightly as I thought that their fans and their music was definitely not clever. However, he is convinced, and I have to say i do think it seems that way, with the 6th joker's card that the message was supposed to be about living a good life. I am not 100% sold on the satire, but it does make sense that that could have been the message all along. (he is looking over my shoulder now and says it's all obvious. He says looking back on the ringmaster album (second album) there are passages which are clear reworkings of new testament passages (although he says this wouldn't be obvious if you didn't know it was supposed to be christian, so it wasn't obvious to him on original listening). He also says the old testament has rape etc in and he finds it hard to see why people can't see the christian thing in their songs.). For the record he is not Christian, but respects the viewpoint. His opinion is that they have a real meaning behind their songs, and unfortunately too many of their fans are not intelligent enough to get the real meaning, and so get everyone a bad name. He is not your typical ICP fan I would say!
Honestly, it sucks but think a lot more people would try to understand the message if people didn't ruin it for them. All I have ever known are "juggalos" who are obsessive to the point of insanity, or delusional in some other way, and so in my mind ICP is always going to be associated with that kind of behaviour, and I'm never going to like it. Not unless I start meeting people like your husband!
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I agree with this. All of the "juggalo/juggalette's" that I've met in person have been very obsessive, delusional and a lot of them are downright hostile for no apparent reason.poxabomination wrote:I think this is pretty fair, its unfortunate because it seems like one of those things where the majority of fans are numbskulls, and there are some that are definitely not. I always try to be careful about what I say, because there are always people who don't fit the stereotype.
Honestly, it sucks but think a lot more people would try to understand the message if people didn't ruin it for them. All I have ever known are "juggalos" who are obsessive to the point of insanity, or delusional in some other way, and so in my mind ICP is always going to be associated with that kind of behaviour, and I'm never going to like it. Not unless I start meeting people like your husband!
TripleSixx is a really nice girl though, from what I know of her. &She seems to do quite well for herself running her business. I do think it's all about the person. Some people take it too far and are mean about it, but some people can be really cool regardless. As far as the band goes, I would judge a person simply for liking them, but if they were too much for me I just wouldn't continue doing their hair.
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From my experience, as i've had to work with these type of people a lot, I used to do promotions for a Juggalo internet radio station.
The "old school" juggalos are Far more laid back, Its the NEW SCHOOL ones that are the idiotic, hostile, "Screw you if you dont like icp" type.
To seperate new school from old school. the vague line between the end of the Shangri-la album, and their "Tempest" album. the ones who were fans pre tempest. generally are more calm.
The ones who are fans post tempest. are... the "bandwagon" jumpers. who didn't pay attention to the old 'jokers cards' which yes, they did have a meaning. Each 'card' had a story.
I will post a link if someone would like to learn. it is quite interesting... but some don't bother. and they just derp around and hate anyone who doesn't like icp.
I've gotten a lot of hate from them because I didn't like ICP. called a fake. among other obscenities.
http://www.angelfire.com/wi3/lair_jokerscards/
The "old school" juggalos are Far more laid back, Its the NEW SCHOOL ones that are the idiotic, hostile, "Screw you if you dont like icp" type.
To seperate new school from old school. the vague line between the end of the Shangri-la album, and their "Tempest" album. the ones who were fans pre tempest. generally are more calm.
The ones who are fans post tempest. are... the "bandwagon" jumpers. who didn't pay attention to the old 'jokers cards' which yes, they did have a meaning. Each 'card' had a story.
I will post a link if someone would like to learn. it is quite interesting... but some don't bother. and they just derp around and hate anyone who doesn't like icp.
I've gotten a lot of hate from them because I didn't like ICP. called a fake. among other obscenities.
http://www.angelfire.com/wi3/lair_jokerscards/
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MissAnthropik, I think my OH and your OH would get on very well!
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I am a juggalo. I've been to the past 4 gatherings and I plan to go this year as well. I actually buy my dread extensions from a juggalette. Oxi Lox is the name of her company. Amazing work, amazing girl. The dread falls and the braids have become very common amongst juggalettes. Not so much the dread extensions though. That I rarely see. Myself and only a few other girls I have seen. But even though I am a juggalo myself I will agree with most of what is said about them. Lots of awful people I will admit. But I am so thankful I have gotten to be friends with the "normal" people. All of my friends are old schoolers and we're all like old people. Just happy to chill. Never about the drugs and destruction.
But I think the point of this was could you make a lot off of these people? Yes, very much so. I'd def go for it and set up a booth there and sell dread falls. They'd sell like hot cakes!
But I think the point of this was could you make a lot off of these people? Yes, very much so. I'd def go for it and set up a booth there and sell dread falls. They'd sell like hot cakes!
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Well it is that time again! The gathering is here. And hopefully it's a good year. Last year there were too many bad things that happened. I'm leaving tomorrow and I hope to post some pictures on here when I get back in a week!
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